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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1129753] |
Tue, 04 December 2007 14:56   |
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The problem with titles also happens with the big guys at times. Just this week I red the wrong story, and not the one from the list because the title was a complete match. There are many people writing now-days. It's hard to think up an original title, that is good for the story.
I can see the end of the tunnel! But, why is it tooting?
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1129795] |
Tue, 04 December 2007 23:33 |
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I get frustrated when the stories all basically say the same thing: same plot, same pairings, same events, everything and it's rather pointless honestly. That's usually what gets me writing my own stories and such. I try to add a little spice to the catagory.  Ebil, yes, but what's the point of enjoying a story if it's the same as everyone else's?
Also I hate stories that have, what I feel is pointless, pairings. Granted, I understand some like them, but I normally avoid these at all costs. (The rather than saying something not nice, I'm just not saying it at all theory)
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1130040] |
Sat, 08 December 2007 22:34 |
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For me, it's a simple instant of a story having a good premise...only for you to read it and the author fails to deliver a quality story...or just simply reeks of badfic.
On the writing end...well the muses never fail to deliver ideas for me...they just happen to have ADD so it's very hard to focus on one idea...let alone the one where you're currently stuck.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1131551] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 21:52 |
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My annoyances usually come from people writing stories that are totally unbelievable and does not follow the story of the actual plot by the original creator. Like some people have already mentioned. Something like Naruto having a fanfiction on sex between Sasuke and Naruto? Eww. I am typically not a yaoi fan and I don't always have stuff against sexual stories. But I feel personally that if you never see it happening at all (not even a hint) then the story is not worth writing. (I guess you could call an extent of this OOC)
Besides that little thing, I really hate poor grammar. My eyes! That's why you do not see me read fanfiction very often. I write it on occasion and I read it if it is any good but if it is a bunch of these two example I feel like clawing out my eyes.
EXAMPLE 1
sasuke: yo
naruto: hi
EXAMPLE 2
they walked over to the man anbd tapped him on the head. sir i need to speak to you said the boy.
You know what I am saying? So far I see decent fanfiction here. At least the authors know their grammar. Thank goodness.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1131585] |
Sat, 05 January 2008 18:05 |
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When people invent their own series complete with their original characters (except for the names) and claim it a fanfic.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1132392] |
Sun, 13 January 2008 07:33 |
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I can't stand it when a story starts out with someone running through the woods while they are crying. It's not that these are all bad stories, I just really hate that scene. I don't even like it when such a moment is in the story at all. If I run upon one again I'll probably just grit my teeth and read through it, but those scenes go on for SOOOO LONG! and they have tons of flashbacks usually, another thing that gets on my nerves... I don't really mind flashbacks, I just think that they are done too much and I really hate long ones... The running through the woods while crying and flashbacking thing also bothers me because usually nothing is giving chase and the person is running towards nothing and usually getting hurt by plant life along the way. This is not the kind of thing a smart or sane person who has an ounce of bravery or emotional control does. Really, can you imagine this happening in real life? It is too often used as a shortcut to a highly improbable encounter that changes the life of said suddenly insane character. Not all are that bad and not all done for the same reasons. I just don't understand why an author decides to use it when it has been done so many other times... did they really like it that much? OK, I feel better now...
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1132489] |
Mon, 14 January 2008 04:00 |
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This "running through the woods" is a pretty much an old cliche. Side note, in the case if someone is chased and the fleeing one is terrified enough it can be quite plausible. I had a bit similar experience when a batch of Gypsies were trying to catch me. The only thing I had on my mind was to get the hell out. Or would you stand up to pitchforks?
These scenes can be good if they are well planned, and there are reasons for it. Emotional situation, pursuit.
I can see the end of the tunnel! But, why is it tooting?
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1133404] |
Wed, 06 February 2008 16:09 |
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 Gaian Knight Alpha 
Messages: 6
Registered: January 2008
Location: Big Timber, Montana |
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It's more of an annoyance than anything bad. But when I see FF.net or here, and see 'way' too many fics based on 'popular' series, and not enough attention given to fics in other series that are just as good, if not better, it just takes creativity away in favor of the same popularity that breeds way too many bad fics, along within all these stupid Hentai fics that would NEVER get past even the show's creators in Japan.
I mean gimme a break. The shows might be uber popular for phantom reasons, but 'not' for Hentaish ones. I swear half (up to 80%) the fics I note that show up new, plop into this category. (And most of them I actually don't know the material, because I just can't stand the popularity crowd bit. Feels like the canon anime itself isn't as good because of it.
Nevermind because of this, the fics I do write don't get noted enough through this mass popularity chaff.
Sorry, being scathingly honest is the only way to get this off my chest. saying it once means not needing to say it again. (For awhile anyway. =^^= )
Current fictions:
AMG: Valkyrie Knight/Mirror
Tenchi: Ah My Tsunami Muyo! (New chapter soon! =^^= )
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1144405] |
Sun, 19 April 2009 02:23 |
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Overusing a fanon device.
Right now, I'm totally into the Supernatural fandom, and trust me, I have never read as much brilliant writing as I have in this fandom. I have written the starts of several Supernatural fics only to wimp out from finishing them for the fear of embarassing myself.
Aanyway, whumping the main characters in a fic - often pretty badly, in deliciously cruel and creative ways - is pretty common here, and then comes the part I dread: The Hospital Scene.
If I read another Supernatural fic with the gratuitous Hospital Scene, I'm going to puke.
There're other fandoms too, where I've seen certain fanon cliches overused to the point of deep and abiding frustration.
A little more creativity, people!
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1144451] |
Tue, 28 April 2009 11:47 |
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Wow, this list for me can go on and on, but I'll try and stick to the main points:
1. Incorrect characterizations in hentai (and in general). Honestly, I love the submissive male smut stories as much as the next person, but the powerful women are usually shown as very...dominatrix. I just don't see Integra using whips and chains on her servant for the sexual gratification of it. Powerful women know how to use that power in other ways.
2. Fragmented sentences (like that). Sentence fragments can be great for stylistic effect. Hell, I use them all the time. But when they're there just for the sake of being, well...there, that's when I have a problem. If you don't know how to use fragments properly, don't use them. Period.
3. Mimicking of other author's styles. I think if you are basing something off a novel (such as Vampire Hunter D) and are creating a continuation in a novel-like format, then yes, copying a style may prove beneficial in order to make the story sound authentic. However, while it is fine to emulate other styles, if you do not know what you are doing, the effect, instead of sounding graceful, may just sound juvenile and corny. Trust me. I've done this same mistake before.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1146702] |
Tue, 15 September 2009 16:15 |
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Here's couple new ones:
-When a fandom has an actual, for real, and above all canon slash pairing and you still run into contrived hook-up stories and slash-fiction stereotypes on occasion.
-A really well-written fic that fails in characterization, smut, or canon departments.
-The longer I've been into fandom, the more I despise AUs. It's like...why are you writing for the fandom if you're not even going to write about the canon? I mean, I'm down with a little plotline diversion or what-if senarios, but full on AUs with just the character names and maybe a vague trace of their personalities just piss me the hell off these days.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1146768] |
Thu, 17 September 2009 23:06 |
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I get frustrated when I see the same ideas being used over and over again. I just want to scream out loud, "Come on! do something different, damn it!" Main examples are some pairings such as: Takari from Digimon, Royai and Roy + Ed from FMA.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1146782] |
Sat, 19 September 2009 02:25 |
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I have to agree with pretty much all you said Lovechild. I am especially not an AU person. I'm into fanfiction because I want to see/read/envision details about things that were not focused on in the canon. For example I read/write in the Dragonball Z genre and am a big fan of the Bulma/Vegeta pairing and I like fics that show more details about their relationship not depicted in the actual series but follow the canon.
| Iggy Lovechild wrote on Tue, 15 September 2009 16:15 |
Here's couple new ones:
-When a fandom has an actual, for real, and above all canon slash pairing and you still run into contrived hook-up stories and slash-fiction stereotypes on occasion.
-A really well-written fic that fails in characterization, smut, or canon departments.
-The longer I've been into fandom, the more I despise AUs. It's like...why are you writing for the fandom if you're not even going to write about the canon? I mean, I'm down with a little plotline diversion or what-if senarios, but full on AUs with just the character names and maybe a vague trace of their personalities just piss me the hell off these days.
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1146794] |
Sat, 19 September 2009 15:41 |
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I also gre frustrated when the writers say "I suck at summaries!" So what? Do the best you can with it!
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1147465] |
Thu, 01 October 2009 18:49 |
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In the Mai-Hime/Mai-Otome fandom the authors focus too much on Shizuru/Natsuki pairing and neglect the other characters. Also the male characters tend be demonize so the authors hooking up their favorite pairing, the overemphasize of Natsuki's mayo addiction and Shizuru using the word Ara they're complex characters please write them close to their canon personaly
"Pain is cheap substitude for the vital gauge"-Remy, Street Fighter 3:Third Stike
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1148317] |
Fri, 06 November 2009 12:26 |
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oskalaboska
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Registered: October 2009
Location: USA |
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My Pet Peeves as a reader:
"This is my first story"
I don't really care if its your first story or your 50th, I expect it to entertain me. If the genre is fluff, I expect to be need to brush my teeth after reading it. If its angst, I expect to feel sadness and hopefully happy at the end. If its smut/PWP I expect to need to change my underwear. Writing this phrase just makes me more critical of what the person's work (if I read it) and honestly, I have pushed many a back button just cause I saw that phrase.
"I suck at summaries"
You suck and titles and summaries, guess what so do I.
How do you really expect me to take this work seriously (or not in the case of humor) when you have written that. This phrase is like telling me that you haven't fully plotted out your story and will probably turn unfinished because the author will write herself into a corner.
I tell those types of authors I've found it best to pick a sentence/paragraph/chapter that is between 1/4th to 1/3th into the story and summarize from there. That way you give just enough to interest people but leave the possibility to surprise the reader. As for titling, ask your beta (which a smart person would have) or pick a sentence or phrase from the end of your story.
Author Rants
I haven't been in high school for a long time so please don't tell me about some skanky girl that you don't like in your 2nd period pissed you off when she embarrassed you during your class presentation.
These notes are only important to me when something would cut into your story writing. Yes, RL and schoolwork should ALWAYS take priority over schoolwork and personally, I understand that an author has other more important things to do than amuse me.
So you got a bad review, and I now have to read a half page rant because of it. Yes, that totally endears me to you. 
If you post something you should expect that some people are not going to like something you write. But the author should be aware of the difference between a flame and just very harsh constructive criticism.
I read a xxxHolic fic where Doumeki beat and raped Watanuki, I told the author what I liked but that I felt her characterization of Doumeki was wrong. I told her that I could see where the idea came from (since Doumeki is slightly stalkerish in canon to me) but it seemed too spontaneous to be believable. I told her that I felt that we needed to see more hints as to why Doumeki became the way he was (since Canon!Doumeki would never do that) and that Watanuki looking back to recognize some weird/questionable behaviorial patterns that Doumeki displayed would be needed. Heck I gave her canon examples she could tweek. Well I received a snotty reply and the next time I looked at the story, she had went into a rant calling me a flamer.  I was confused because she asked about her characterization.
Which brings me to my next one
Cliches
Naruto returns from his 3 years of training and is floored by how much of a foxy momma Hinata has become and two weeks later they're banging on Tsunade's desk when she's gone. It was after the 60th time I read this scenerio that I said Fruk it.
Honestly I have nothing against cliches. In certain fandoms it makes me jump on a story (Drarry m-preg is my guilty pleaure) but I want some spice, man. You have to make your story different. There are only so many times you can read a sparkly Draco (Veela or Vampire) before you just want to throw Lupin at him. NOTE :I hate Ms. Meyer.
Unfinished Stories
Someone already said it but I hate when they stop just when the plot picks up.
Fanon becoming Canon
To use iggy's example: Slut!Reno. Where the ell did he come from? Yes, I see Reno as an egoist (not as bad as Sephiroth) but still, someone point me to where that came from. Why is Hitsugaya a insomniac workaholic whose favorite food is watermelon. Kubo said he's always taking naps in an effort to grow taller (his granny told him sleep helps you grow) and his favorite food is nattou.
Not everyone assumes that Roy and Hawkeye made for each other *raises hand* You have to convince me. And having them married doesn't mean anything. The Harry Potter fandom is filled to the brim with Infidelity fics. Also if Kira is such a wimpy, weak-willed guy, why is he able to calmly dispatch of each and every opponent that faces him (Heck, wasn't he winning against that Doll that was wiping the floor with Ichigo, the MAIN SUPERPOWERED CHARACTER).
Foreign Languages私は言語の間で読むことを憎む
I speak 3 languages (English, French, and German) and am currently learning Japanese. My mind is like a stick shift. I can only process one language at a time. I'm okay with Titles being in another language but when speech jumps from Japanese to English it bothers me a little since my mind has to stop, switch gears, go forward a little, translate, stop again, and switch back. Its aggravating.
Also, if you (or your beta) don't speak the langauage, it's best not to use it, especially with Japanese. -san, -tan, -han, -kun, -sama, -chan basically all mean the same thing. Smoker and Roy are both taisa (Colonel and Captain respectively) while Hitsugaya is taichou/teichou (Captain or Commanding Officer) ,and Luffy is senchou (Captain). Muraki (doctor), Iruka (teacher), and Kubo (mangaka) are sensei and a mountain of other little rules and speech patterns that tick off all of us who take the time to learn the language. I read the word 'koi' and sometimes think 'why are we talking about fish'.
My pet peeves as a writer:
My Own Attention Span
I have a major problem with finishing stories. AS stated above I hate reading stories only to find out that they are incomplete, it is for that reason that I don't start to post a fic in archives until I have at least finished the rough draft.
Unfortunately what you get for me is a massive amount of drabbles and ficlets since my muse gets easily distracted especially when the word count gets over 500.
Reviews
I think the lack of is a pet peeve of all authors. On FF.net I have a drabble series that has 22 chapters, 36 Story Alerts, 2 Community Archives, and Favorited 6 times, but I only have 1 review  .
Yes, I'm aware that I write for unpopular pairings and almost dead or small fandoms but I fell is you can read it then you can drop a line. And my hit stats say that a lot of people are reading and not saying anything.
Please note that I'm not one of a writer for the sake of reviews, its more for my sanity. I get a plot bunny and it gnaws on my brain until I put it down on paper. The purpose of reviews is more of a status check. I try to put out stories that I would enjoy to read and really appreciate hearing others opinions and criticisms about my work.
Also, I hate getting that review about my pairing choice. Yes to me Sheik is a male, if he was female then he'd be Zelda. I don't care if you think Sasuke is better than Neji for Naruto, the filters are Naruto and Neji (and there is no threesome involved). Sick, I'm sorry but Toushirou is 31 and Ichigo is 22, so both my characters are way of age. I'm sorry I don't like Kanda all that much that is why I'm using him as little as possible.
I think My posts is large enough so I'll stop
~I'm writing this at work so sorry for incoherency~
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| Re: When do you get frustrated with Fanfiction? [message #1148637] |
Fri, 20 November 2009 14:03 |
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I totally agree with you on the reader part.
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